The Sand Pebbles Movie Message Board

(Although individual responses are not usually listed here, I do answer all email I receive)

From: Christian Addicott
Date: Tue, Jan 17, 2017 9:16 PM
To:    Crispin Garcia
Subject: Steve McQueen - The Sand Pebbles

Hello, I am Christian with Friends of Steve McQueen Car show at Boys Republic in Chino Hills, CA. We put on a car show every year and title it after one of McQueen's movies, this year is the Sand Pebbles, it is June 4th 2017 with the dinner the night before on the 3rd. The Event is to raise funds for Boys Republic which Steve attended, Chad (Steve's son) chairs the event, this year we have added ships, steam and electric. I have managed to get the static display replica of the San Pablo from SS Lane Victory, I would like to have a working model of one also. Are you aware of one in southern California? If so can you forward my info to them or I can contact them. Is it possible for you also to put this event out on your website? Might be a few people interested in going. Last year we had just over 10,000 in attendence.

If you have further questions feel free to contact me.

Christian.

www.stevemcqueencarshow.com
christian@stevemcqueencarshow.com
909-821-1673

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From: James Sherlock
To: Crispin Garcia
Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: The Sand Pebbles material ....

Hi Crispin,
 
I hope this finds you well!
 
It all looks wonderful, thank you very much!
 
Other material on "The Sand Pebbles" I have includes a 40" x 6" Banner (with the Title and Outline of the San Pablo), a Complete U.S. (European printed) 16" x 20" Deluxe Photobusta Set, and the Deluxe 11" x 14" Set of 16 Cards. 
 
If there is anything above you would like to add to your wonderful "Sand Pebbles" site please let me know and I'll have it scanned and send it to you.
 
All else I have, including the NYC Subway poster, the U.S. 60" x 40" poster, the U.S. 3-Sheet poster, the "Sounds of the Making a Motion Picture" LP, etc, you seem to have.

The Sand Pebbles premiered in a 70MM Roadshow engagement in Australia at The Esquire Theatre in Melbourne on Thursday the 13th of July, 1967, and ran until Wednesday the 1st of November, 1967. It then followed, in a slightly shorter non Roadshow version, into suburban, country and Drive-In Theatres.

You may also be interested to know that I worked with Richard Attenborough back around 1972 on the Australian national premiere of "Young Winston," and that I have fond memories of him telling me stories on the making of "The Sand Pebbles" and his friendship with Steve McQueen, etc. Back then "The Sand Pebbles" was still very fresh in my memory, it was still doing the rounds and rereleases. He also spoke about "The Great Escape," "Doctor Dolittle" and "10 Rillington Place" (which I also worked on here).

When I get a moment I will write it down and send it over also.

Very best wishes,
James.

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From: James Sherlock
To: Crispin Garcia
Date: Wed, January 11, 2017 4:21 PM
Subject: The Sand Pebbles material ....

Dear Crispin,
 
I hope this finds you well and very best of wishes for the New Year!
 
My sincere apologies for the delay in getting back to you, I have finally been able to have THE SAND PEBBLES material scanned and it is ready to send through to you.
 
As I previously mentioned, I was starting out in the industry here as an assistant publicist for Fox back in the '60s and I remember the release of THE SAND PEBBLES very well, I worked on many hundreds of films over the years and THE SAND PEBBLES remains one of my all time favourites.
 
Please let me know if it is okay to send you the images on this email address.
 
I have put the details on every image, including page numbers for the British Pressbook.
 
I will also send you the original release details and dates of THE SAND PEBBLES, it was a big 70MM release.
 
I have recommended your spectacular website on my radio shows around Australia numerous time and have had an outstanding response every time.
 
Thank you again Crispin and I hope you like the material when I send it through.
 
Most respectfully yours, always,
 
James Sherlock:
Film Historian, Writer, Presenter.

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Response - Thank you so much. A new section incorporating these materials has been created on the website - click here.

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From: Lee Edwards
To: Crispin Garcia
Date: Tue, September 6, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: 1918 3" deck gun USS San Pablo

I am not sure this is the place to be but I wanted to show a couple of pictures of the 1918 3" deck gun that I restored. It is the same model that is mounted on the bow of the San Pablo (?) used in the movie. Might be handy for anyone trying to reproduce an accurate model of the boat.

The gun came from a friend of mine that had collected cannons since WWII. When he passed away I was able to broker a deal for the estate dispersing the collection. As a commission I picked this very unique gun. With a little bit of research I found that this model was used in the movie. I will display it at various military meets but otherwise will keep it at my home. Keep in mind this is only a hobby but it also my addiction. Helps to keep our history alive.

Thanks, Lee

Lee Edwards
President
Edwards Heat Treating
642 McCormick Street
San Leandro, Ca 94577

   

   
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Response: Mr. Edwards,

Wow! What an amazing restoration.

I appreciate the time you took to share your story, these pictures and thinking of the Sand Pebbles website.

Thanks and best regards,

Crispin


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From: Evan Griffiths
To: Crispin Garcia
Date: Tue, August 23, 2016 12:51 PM
Subject: The Sand Pebbles Hull (322)

Dear Sir: In 1967 with my family we visited the Fox Studios in California. And on one of the back lots we were told a small ship berthed in a lagoon there was a model of the San Pablo. I am attaching a picture which I took while there. Can you identify this hull as being associated with that picture ( The Sand Pebbles)? May I look forward to your reply?

Thank you.
Evan Griffiths

fox backlot model

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Response: Mr. Griffiths,

Thank you for the interesting photo. I have attached a link to a photo of the actual San Pablo in construction.

http://www.thesandpebbles.com/san_pablo/sanpab3.jpg

The model you enjoyed and photographed is a mediocre approximation of the actual ship.

The San Pablo had one smoke stack not two. There is no such number as 322 for a Navy gunboat.

The forward gun is quite different from the 3 inch gun on the San Pablo. The list goes on...

However that said the model you viewed is an interesting curiosity.

Thanks for writing.

Best regards,
Crispin


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From: Mauricio Arbulú
To: Crispin Garcia
Date: Friday, July 8, 2016 7:21 PM
Subject: The Sand Pebbles - Jake and Shirley

Hello Crispin:

My name is Mauricio Arbulú, I am from Lima, Perú, South America. I am a great fan of the film "The Sand Pebbles" and I've visited your website and it is awesome!

The best of the film is the romance between Jake Holman and Shirley Eckhert. In your opinion Cris, Do you think that Jake was really in love with Shirley? I am asking you this because Jake says to Shirley in the kiss scene that things work out between them.

Well, I am glad to get to know you by this way and I am waiting for your answer.

Greetings

Mauricio

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From: John Nyman
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015 6:45 PM
Subject: Remembering...
To: Crispin Garcia

I saw Sand Pebbles in 1967. I made up my mind while I was watching it that I was going to join the Navy.

Does anyone remember what Chief.Wellbeck's rating was? I think he was a Quartermaster which is a job that requires skills navigation and visual communication (semaphore flashpoint and flashing light).

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From: Schmeling, Mark
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:44 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: SAND PEBBLES - 2016

Greetings Webmaster,

I return to your site time and again, and just last night (January 28, 2015) I sat back and consumed the TCM presentation of "The Sand Pebbles." I saw the roadshow version in Detroit (twice), at the Music Hall Theater (where a steady parade of Cinerama releases preceded this premiere, and where the curved Cinerama screen was still in place), and from what I gathered at your site, I was the beneficiary of the fabled test audience print that found its way to Detroit.

It is amusing to me that Richard Schickel and other reviewers of that period, found the film too long, especially in an era when DeMille and Lean and Stevens, among others, had told their stories without apparent concern for elapsed time. It seemed to me that a roadshow feature was always a richer experience for the time it took for the story to unfold to those in reserved seats. But that's me.

My question is about the upcoming 50th anniversary of the film, and if you have heard anything about a new theatrical print and release in 2016?

Cheers,

Mark Schmeling

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From: Eric Galati
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:35 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: The Sand Pebbles...

Dear Mister Garcia,

Thank you for your “The Sand Pebbles” web site. I just came across it to-day after viewing the film yesterday evening here in New York on Turner Classic Movies. It must have been the cut version because it was just a little over three hours,unusual for Turner Classic Movies,at least I believe so,because they are supposed to transmit uncut films.

Anyway back in either 2008 or 2009 I saw a 70 millimeter print at the great art house cinema of Manhattan, The Walter Reade Theater. Would this have been the one hundred ninety-six minute version, now called Roadshow? Anyway,magnificent on the big screen.

One important question: I discovered about ten minutes ago on the Internet Movie Database that a print was submitted to the United Kingdom which ran four hours and three minutes (4 hours 3 minutes = 243 minutes). It was submitted to the British Board Of Film Classification formerly British Board Of Film Censors at this cut. Does this exist? Did the censors actually in this case with the complicity of Twentieth Century Fox cut 1 hour and 14 minutes (74 minutes) of film which was intended for Britain and perhaps other European countries? What do you know of this artistic tragedy,all too often destruction of a cinema creation,which is now occurring sadly,and has been for years in literature?

Once again,very grateful for your site.

God Bless,
Eric Galati

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From: Lawrence A. De Graw
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 08:25 AM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: The Sand Pebbles...

Thank you, Webmaster, for an excellent, EXcellent compilation job on your Sand Pebbles site! I've been wanting to drop you a line for some time just to let you know just how much the site is actually appreciated. It has now developed into a treasure trove of data and relevant info for all of us "Sand Pebbles" on the outside looking in, and I daresay you might be quite surprised to find out just how many of us there are out here who just loved the film. Please come check us out on our full FB page at "The Sand Pebbles Appreciation Society", at https://www.facebook.com/groups/2231453728/ -- if you're not already one of the group members. Just thought you should know we are indeed out here --so come on over and join us so we can welcome you aboard!

Lawrence A. De Graw
Senior Project Technical Writer
Naval Historian
Ocala, FL

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From: Bill Bennett
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 20:58 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: The Sand Pebbles...

Hi,

We exchanged emails years ago and I often think about my day aboard the SP. Steve's son was just a small boy then, and now the son's son just recently appeared in a TV movie. I will be turning 87 in a few months and that day on the San Pablo was a highlight of my career.

Happy Holidays, Bill

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From: Edward Boyce
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:25 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: The Sand Pebbles...

I was stationed at Taipei in the USAF in 1965 and 1966 when The Sand Pebbles was filmed. The cast and crew of the movie could regularly be seen in our NCO clubs and the Officers club. I remember seeing Steve McQueen and his wife at the Navy Club one night and once I actually sat with my back to Steve McQueen's back. All the top cast members were eating at Club 63 that night. It was quite a thrill to be in the same room as those guys, especially Steve McQueen. I just wish I had taken pictures but did not. Steve McQueen's stand-in became quite a regular at Club 63. For several Sundays he would come to the club and show us outtakes of his movies and talk about his various movie rolls. He was quite interesting and was a very likable person. I remember several of the GIs, especially the sailors, taking leave to be extras in the movie. By the time it came out I had been discharged from the USAF and went to see it as soon as it opened. I was not disappointed. I have seen it several times since and it is one of my favorite movies.

This is my personal memory of a special event that happened in a very special time in my life.

Ed

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From: Richard Arnold
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 3:59 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: The Sand Pebbles...

Hi Crispin,

I saw this movie for the first time while I was in the Navy in 1967 or 1968. As I remember it the opening scene was a sunrise in Shanghai harbor and the music got louder as the sun rose and the harbor came to life. I rented the DVD version and that wasn’t the opening scene. Did the movie get changed? It has been a lot of years so perhaps I am mistaken and that scene was from another movie.

Thanks for you reply.

Richard

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Response - Richard, you may have been fortunate enough to have seen the audience test cut version of this film. I can't say for sure.

http://www.thesandpebbles.com/roadshow_audience/roadshow_audience.html

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From: John Figuerres
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:31 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: The Sand Pebbles...

Good web site. I just finished reading the book and it has been one of my favorite movies.

Aloha
John M. Figuerres
CAPT, USN

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From: Jack O'Brien
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:57 AM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: The Sand Pebbles - Movie poster, Tom Jung

Hello,

I have been working on a legacy project for Tom Jung and came across the attached poster - It is one of my favorite from the film and is very unique - Both the Tom Jung artwork and the Howard Terpning art are shown but in separate parts of the poster.......To me it seems that combining the two together was a bit problematic.

In any case just thought that it might belong up on the website - Which is fantastic by the way!

Regards,
Jack

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From: Christophe Morin
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:28 AM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: The Sand Pebbles...

My french website to the memories of the Great Steve McQueen:

http://morinos.macqueen.free.fr

Christophe

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From: Larry Hull
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:46 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: Great Web site

The only thing I would like to see added is where this music can be bought and down loaded. Again, a very well done web page!!

Thanks

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From: Mark Schmeling
Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:41 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: The Sand Pebbles...

Dear Crispin,

I keep coming back to your site as one who must have seen the 200 minute roadshow engagement print at the Music Hall theater in Detroit. I too recall the DINNER WITH SHIRLEY scene, but I remember quite vividly a still from that scene , not among the Italian lobby cards, but on the back cover of the paperback edition of the novel released to coincide with the film. I had cut it out and taped it to the inside of my school locker at one point in time. Nice job with this website.

Cheers,
Mark Schmeling
Berkley, Michigan USA

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From: Haristas
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:49 AM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: 2-CD Sand Pebbles

Hi Cris,

It's been a while since I've talked to you, but I'm still here and still a big SAND PEBBLES fan. Just getting ready to watch the movie again for its 45th anniversary and comes this news:

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7333/.f

I also found this great web page with interesting stuff (Emil Kosa Jr. reference) you might like to look at:

http://nzpetesmatteshot.blogspot.com/2011/07/salute-to-20th-century-fox-special.html

Rory

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From: Paul Rossen
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:37 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: Goldsmith's music to TSP

Hi Cris,

Hope you are well and having a great Holiday Season!

Just in case you didn't know Intrada Records has just released Goldsmith's great score to TSP. The Varese release is sold out and out of print (except for Ebay!!!!).

Thus, this is a chance for new 'fan's to purchase the score at a reasonable cost.

Best Regards,

Paul

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INTRADA Presents:

The Sand Pebbles CD

THE SAND PEBBLES
Music Composed and Conducted by JERRY GOLDSMITH
INTRADA MAF 7116


The 1966 20th Century Fox film The Sand Pebbles features one of Jerry Goldsmith's most significant scores. Just five years into his film career and already a double Academy-award nominee, the opportunity came to him as "an accident" when Alex North dropped out. Goldsmith was slated to score MGM's Grand Prix, but Fox stole him away. Goldsmith constructed his score around two love themes one "American" (which became a much-recorded popular song with lyrics by Leslie Bricusse, "And We Were Lovers") and one "Chinese." In addition to the strong love themes, Goldsmith crafted a score featuring a dramatic infusion of military, action, and Asian influences, leading to a powerful work that remains one of his finest, even considering the decades of Goldsmith's film scoring that succeeded it.

Intrada presents the definitive release of The Sand Pebbles, including alternates in this comprehensive 2-CD set. The process of this restoration began with recalling the 2 24-track protection masters made from the original 35mm multi-track magnetic elements in the 1990s. Retransferred at 96k/24 bit resolution, this facilitated the repair of each separate track of audio and the finessing of balance, equalization and stereo steering to bring out the dynamic brilliance of the Fox scoring stage and the studio orchestra's consummate performance under the exacting baton of Lionel Newman. The original 1966 album master thankfully provided a stereo version of the cue "Repel Boarders," which survived in the Fox material only as a monaural dub. Previously unreleased cues fill out the first-ever complete presentation of the score on Disc 1, while a second disc features album versions, alternates and six pieces of period source music recorded for the film.

The Sand Pebbles tells the story of Jake Holman's (Steve McQueen) service on board the San Pablo, an American gunboat patrolling the Yangtze River in 1926, during a time in which China was "ravaged from within by corrupt warlords, oppressed from without by the great world powers, a country of factions trying to unite to become a nation through revolution."

INTRADA MAF 7116
Retail Price: $24.99
For track listing and sound samples, please visit:

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7333/.f


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To: Crispin Garcia
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:18 PM
From: Crystal Ladybug
Subject: The Sand Pebbles

Hello,

You have a wonderful and informative site on The Sand Pebbles! I had a fun and intriguing time browsing through it!

I was curious as to whether or not you had any additional information on Simon Oakland, who played Stawski? My friend Lucky Ladybug and I have an under-construction tribute website for Simon, but we've found that information and anecdotes are hard to come by.

We were also curious as to whether or not you'd like to affiliate to our site. If not, could we get your permission to link to your site when we make our Links section?

Thanks for your time!

Sincerely, Crystal Rose

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The Unofficial Simon Oakland Tribute

Companion Blog: From the Desks of the INS: In Honor of Simon Oakland

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From: John Hess
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:46 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: RE: The Sand Pebbles

Thanks for the response Crispin. I heard about it after watching TSP on the Fox Movie Channel in an interview with someone whom I forget. This person indicated the alternate ending was filmed but not used which is why I thought it might exist and hoped to view someday. Do you know if a version exists which includes the deleted scenes? I didn't get to see all of it on Fox but did catch some of them and would like to see the beginning when Jake is on the USS Texas.

Sounds like your information indicates this was rumor only and Jake shall forever remain in China!

Appreciate you clearing this up…

Regards,
John

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Response - While I still think the person stating that an alternate ending was shot is hearsay I am not the definitive expert on the film since I've never had access to the movie files which are maintained at the UCLA Film and Television Archive department in California. I am just going by everything I've ever heard or read about the film's production. The China Light ending was shot at the Fox Ranch in Malibu and were some of the final scenes to be filmed. Seeing is believing and other than the person you mentioned no one else I know has seen this alternate ending. If you own the 2007 DVD 2-disc set which contains the theatrical and roadshow versions then you have all of the scenes presently available to the public. The scenes deleted from the 200 minute audience test version (if they still exist and were not destroyed) should be in the archive vaults at UCLA. This would include the missing USS Texas introduction scene. Thanks for writing back to let me know about the Fox person claiming an alternate ending was filmed.

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From: John Hess
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:39 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: Re: The Sand Pebbles

Hello,

I am really pleased to have found your website and thank you. The Sand Pebbles is one of my favorite movies and I am particularly interested in the deleted scenes. I understand an ending was filmed where Jake Holman lives and makes it back to the ship (to appease Steve McQueen) but that is wasn't used to create a more powerful ending. Do you know if this alternate ending exists and is available to view? I would love to see it and think Jake at least lives one time when watching the movie!

Thanks.

John

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Response - Thanks for your kind words. The story of an alternate ending to the Sand Pebbles has circulated on the internet for many years possibly fueled by a passage in Casey St. Charnez’s book “The Complete Films of Steve McQueen”, Citadel Press 1992.

“McQueen and Wise differ often on how a scene should be shot, and Wise acquiesces by shooting two versions of the scenes in question. Wise's editorial sense prevails and none of McQueen's versions end up in the final print. At least, however, there is a final print, which many Jeremiahs along the way have predicted there would not be.”

In the past I’ve talked to a close personal aide to Robert Wise when he was living and there was never any discussion regarding an alternate ending created to please Steve McQueen. Although it is a known fact that McQueen was unhappy with the ending there was never any concession by Wise to alter the story as it would have been a discredit to the acclaimed novel the movie was based on. Wise would have been very firm on this particular point. I don’t expect our discussion here to stop the rumors of an alternate ending, people will believe what they like.


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From: Michael Tomkins
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:55 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: Re: The San Pablo's builder -- a question answered

Hi Crispin

Thanks for sharing the info with your readers. It seems I've since answered my next question, thanks again to your site. You have a video showing the San Pablo under construction, and it very clearly shows a shed marked "Cheoy Lee" in the background. They're probably the best-known Hong Kong-based shipbuilder (http://www.cheoylee.com), established in 1870, and their yard was located in Penny's Bay, Lantau Island from the 1930s until 2001, when they moved their operations to mainland China. The Hong Kong Government purchased their yard, and after decontaminating the land, it was redeveloped to become Hong Kong Disneyland, so there's every chance the slipway on which San Pablo sat is now part of the Disney park.

I'd infer from the video that the San Pablo was either built by Cheoy Lee (perhaps under contract from Vaughan and Yung?), or that the latter's yard was located immediately adjacent to Cheoy Lee's in Penny's Bay. I can't so far find any confirmation either way -- it seems like every time I answer one question, I turn up another. ;-)

It might be interesting to contact Cheoy Lee themselves, or the members of their owners' association (http://www.cheoyleeassociation.com/), and see whether they can provide any further information on Vaughan and Yung, or the San Pablo's construction. The yard number mentioned in the video -- hull 287 -- might be helpful in that cause, although I don't *think* it's a Cheoy Lee yard number, as I've read that they started their numbering scheme in the 1940s, and were already beyond the thousand mark by the early 60s.

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?81293-Cheoy-Lee-Mystery&s=af16c7820976210142e61d193fd31b22

And there's one further interesting point in the thread I just linked -- a post from October 2008 specifically states that the San Pablo was built by Cheoy Lee, although the poster may just be guessing based on having seen the same video linked from your site. You can see what's likely the same Cheoy Lee shed in his picture that appears in your video, though...

Cheers

Michael

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From: Michael Tomkins
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:03 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: The San Pablo's builder -- a question answered

Dear Crispin

The Sand Pebbles was a topic over a family dinner tonight, and a comment from my father-in-law launched me on a brief quest to learn more about the film, and the San Pablo. I quickly discovered your excellent site, which answered most of our questions, but also raised another.

Way back in May 1999, a reader of your site by the name of "Navionflyr" posed the question -- what happened to "Vaughn & Jung Engineering Ltd.", the Hong Kong-based builder of the San Pablo prop.

A quick Google, as it did for Navionflyr twelve years ago, turned up almost nothing. I grew up in Hong Kong myself, and had never heard of the company, but made a guess that the spelling was incorrect -- and it turned out to be the case.

The company name was actually "VAUGHAN AND YUNG ENGINEERING COMPANY LIMITED", and according to a China-based corporate information website, they continued in business until June 13th, 1987. The site's in Chinese, but Google Translate does a pretty good job with it.

http://www.corptrading.net/hktool/cps.jsp?key=8630-315742e4

English-language confirmation is available from the Hong Kong Government's Companies Registry. They list Vaughan and Yung -- company registry number 009058 -- as being incorporated on July 24th, 1963, and also confirm that it was dissolved on June 13th, 1987:

http://www.icris.cr.gov.hk/csci/login_i.do?loginType=iguest&username=iguest

...and MaritimeDatabase.com confirms that Vaughan and Yung was a shipbuilder:

http://www.maritime-database.com/company.php?cid=306913

...and that's where the trail dries up. I'd be interested to know where Vaughan and Yung's yards were located, but it's beyond my Google skills, at least for the moment. Perhaps somebody else will answer that question for me, a decade from now. At the least, I've hopefully put a question to rest for somebody else, even if Navionflyr may have long since forgotten their own question. ;-)

Kind regards

Michael R. Tomkins

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From: Ian Elliot
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 5:48 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: Marayat Andriane interview

Hi Crispin. I guessing you've probably caught this already, but just in case... (it's in French, I think I understand about every third word!)

Cheers, Ian Elliot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj5t-HKupp0

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From: Dennis Noble
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:43 AM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: Research material on Richard McKenna

Crispin,

Wonder if you could put this on your Sand Pebbles Site:

I have just finished with the first phase of researching Richard McKenna's life. Would like to point out to anyone interested in the author of The Sand Pebbles the marvelous research material available at the library of the Richard McKenna Charter High School in Mountain Home, Idaho. The even have the shooting script for the movie, plus many other items and especially letters McKenna wrote. It is a treasure trove. Plus the library is a wonderful place to work. Thanks.

Dr. Dennis L. Noble

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From: Jeff Cordell
Sent: Tuesday, 19 Apr 2011 5:24 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: Sand Pebbles

Just in case you are interested. IMFdb is a website documenting the types of firearms used in movies, television, etc. Here is the link to the page for the Sand Pebbles. I'm one of the site moderators and did a lot of the work on this page.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/The_Sand_Pebbles

Jeff Cordell

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Response - A great resource for not only Sand Pebbles fans but for many other films as well. Thanks for sharing!

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From: Aaron Hofius
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 3:26 PM
To: Crispin Garcia
Subject: Ralph Bringewatt, Sand Pebbles

My grandfather, Ralph Bringewatt has one speaking line (when on the dock as an evacuating American, he is asked "Where's Jameson" my grandfather answers "He wouldn't come."). [Click here for scene.] He and a number of my aunts and uncles appear as extras in two scenes. I'd love to know more about how Robert Wise chose the extras. My grandparents were Lutheran missionaries in Taiwan at the time of the movie and had no acting experience whatsoever. They enjoyed being in the movie and talked about it until they passed away some years ago.

--
Rev. Aaron D. Hofius
Pastor
Cornerstone Presbyterian Church
P.O. Box 270208
St. Louis, MO 63127

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Response - That's a great story! I wish I could help more with the answer on how the extras were selected for the movie but unfortunately I can't. They were obviously well qualified for the roles. The answer may lie in the UCLA Film and Television Archives where most of the documentation regarding the film's production reside and something I do not have access to.

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